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13 May 2005

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Jeff Clavier

It is even crazier than that: he is being used because he posted an extract of a newspaper article that was very critical to the Mayor of Puteaux. The newspaper is also being named as a defendant in the defamation suit.

They would not stand a chance in the US, but hey "c'est la France". Shameful, really.

Brock Hamper

Why is anyone surprised??? We are talking about France! It's a foreign country. They do not have the rights we have as set out in our constitution. To me, any shock about this happening just further illustrates to me that the people in the US take our constitution and bill of rights for granted. I've heard it a million times. We should be more like a European country. We shouldn't let citizens have guns, we are the only country that does. We should monitor what people say so no ones sensibilities are hurt. We should change our constitution and bill of rights cause it was written by people that lived a long time ago and could not for-see the problems of today.

Hog wash. This story is a prime example of why the men that wrote the constitution and bill of rights were genius.

Let France burn. Maybe someday the citizens will wake up and gain their natural born rights.

In the mean time, worry about the US falling a sleep about it's freedoms!

Brock Hamper

Never mind. I thought this was a US website. Good luck all you Europeans...

Werner George Patels

That's nothing. Someone here in Calgary set up a blog/website and highlighted a number of corrupt goings-on at the local police, including attacks on the chief of police. The site was shut down and the owner/hoster of the site (not the actual authors!) has been sued ($5,000 was the amount the owner/hoster had to pay in an out-of-court settlement).

Neville Hobson

Thanks for sharing all those thoughts.

Brock, I'm glad you added your second comment there as I was beginning to think your first comment was by some xenophobic American. Oh wait... ;)

If Calgary was in the French-speaking part of Canada, Werner, I'd begin to think there might be some kind of connection here!

Scott S.

It has been said over and over government is no longer able to control the flow of information, and the arrest and lawsuit can only backfire on whichever city this is. Silencing dissent in a very public forum like Christophe's blog will not be taken lightly - especially if blogging is becoming very popular in France.

As an American like Brock above, I am not surprised by this article. But, considering the author of this site just recently enjoyed a visit to France for Les Blogs, is British and lives in the Netherlands, I don't think saying 'France should burn' will go over well.

pourtales

French blogger arrested then sued

pouvez-vous me dire quelle est la ville SVP

merci

Sophie Erhard

Dear Neville, you admit you do not read French very well... but it does not prevent you from having an opinion and publishing it.
Do you know what is the precise reason of prosecution ? Have you seen, read and understood the text ? I'm French and I've found it no where...
We do not know and have no proof of this event, except what the boy says. How do you know he says the entire truth ? because media relay it ?

How can you judge a country from this ?


EasyJetsetter

Hear hear Sophie. I'm from Britain, living in France, after years in the States and you're all forgetting (or never knew) that France has astonishingly strict privacy laws, which meant that papers were not allowed to print the news that everyone already knew that Mitterand had an illegitimate daughter. It also meant that until Emmanuelle Beart released a public statement saying she was pregnant, the papers couldn't even print a picture of her with the bump, for fear of being sued.

I don't know the details of this case, and am, myself, fairly angry about this, it probably is a misinterpretation of privacy laws.

However, learn a little bit about the massive differences between legal systems before you start blasting another country. Just because they have a different legal system, specifically, one where the individual's right to privacy is privileged over right to free speech, it doesn't mean it's an evil country. Keep this in perspective people.

Neville Hobson

Great comments, thanks.

Sophie, your point is valid. I published an opinion. I don't know how true any of the story is other than from what I've read on a variety of blogs. And indeed, my French is less than perfect, so looking for more detail on French-language blogs is difficult.

But that's the judgement call you have to make when you decide to also comment on something someone else has written. The blog I first read this story on is one whose writer I know and trust. So I believe that the broad outline I commented on presents a fair idea of what's happening to Christophe Grebert in the town of Puteaux, and why.

If the story isn't true, well, I expect someone will publish the facts. And if I see such a post, I'll comment on that too.

EasyJetSetter, good point too re legal systems. As I said in my post, I have no knowledge of the French legal system.

In any event, if this thing does reach court on June 21, no doubt all the details will be clearly stated. Hopefully someone will be able to get hold of a full English translation of the proceedings for the avoidance of any doubt in understanding!

Arthur

"pouvez-vous me dire quelle est la ville SVP"

http://www.monputeaux.com

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